The sleepy town of Dayton, TN burst onto the national scene and rose to prominence when a science teacher was taken to court over teaching human evolution in a high school science class. The famed The State of Tennessee v. John Thomas Scopes trial, known in popular discourse as the Scopes "Monkey" Trial, has since become an iconic event symbolizing religious anti-intellectualism's collision with science and progress. As with most historical events, there's more to it than that. Join Andy, Terry, and Steve as they discuss the different nuances surrounding this culturally significant trial.

The Scopes Trial: The Genesis of an Evolution Debate

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by Josh Leake

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by Assaf Ayalon

5 thoughts on “The Scopes Trial: The Genesis of an Evolution Debate”

  1. Appreciated the nuanced, balanced discussion around the Scopes Trial and different views on evolution within the Christian faith. I’d love to see a podcast with Denis Venema to contrast your previous discussion with Stephen Meyer.

  2. Hey guys!

    I’m not sure if you’ll read comments on a podcast this old, but in case you do, I have a question:

    Are there any differences between an Old Earth Creationist and a proponent of intelligent design? I noticed that Andy seemed to mention the two as though they were separate points of view, but I’m not clear on the difference.


    1. Hi Andrew,

      Thanks for the comment and the question.

      An Old Earth Creationist is a creationist who believes that the Earth is old (~4.3 billion years old). On the other hand, a proponent of Intelligent Design is one who makes the minimal commitment to life (or other things) being the by-product of the activity of an intelligent agent. While the two may overlap, the two camps are not identical. Some OECs are proponents of Intelligent Design while others are not.

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